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Finance Committee |
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Meeting Venue: |
Committee Room 2 - Senedd |
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Meeting date: |
Thursday, 7 November 2013 |
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Meeting time: |
09:00 - 10:38 |
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Concise Minutes: |
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Assembly Members: |
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Jocelyn Davies (Chair) Peter Black Christine Chapman Paul Davies Mike Hedges Ann Jones Julie Morgan Simon Thomas |
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Witnesses: |
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Mark Drakeford, Minister for Health and Social Services Sally Hughes, Welsh Government Marc Osland, Welsh Government |
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Committee Staff: |
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Fay Buckle (Clerk) Gareth Price (Clerk) Claire Griffiths (Deputy Clerk) |
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1 Introductions, apologies and substitutions
1.1 The Chair welcomed Members and members of the public to the meeting.
2 National Health Service Finance (Wales) Bill: Stage 2 - Consideration of Amendments
2.1 In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee considered and disposed of the amendments to the Bill in the following order:
Sections 1 – 3
Section 1:
No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore it was deemed agreed to.
Section 2:
Amendment 8 (Mark Drakeford) was withdrawn
Amendment 3 (Paul Davies)
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Abstain |
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Simon Thomas Peter Black Paul Davies Jocelyn Davies |
Christine Chapman Julie Morgan Mike Hedges Ann Jones |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)), Amendment 3 was not agreed to. |
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Amendment 1 (Simon Thomas) was withdrawn
Amendment 2 (Simon Thomas)
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For |
Against |
Abstain |
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Simon Thomas Peter Black Paul Davies Jocelyn Davies |
Christine Chapman Julie Morgan Mike Hedges Ann Jones |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)), Amendment 2 was not agreed to. |
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Amendment 10 (Simon Thomas) was withdrawn
Amendment 9 (Mark Drakeford) was agreed to, in accordance with Standing Order 17.34 (i).
Section 3:
No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore it was deemed agreed to.
New Sections:
Amendment 4 (Paul Davies)
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Abstain |
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Simon Thomas Peter Black Paul Davies Jocelyn Davies |
Christine Chapman Julie Morgan Mike Hedges Ann Jones |
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As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)), Amendment 4 was not agreed to. |
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Amendment 5 (Paul Davies) was withdrawn
Amendment 6 (Paul Davies) was withdrawn
Amendment 7 (Paul Davies) fell
2.2 The Chair advised that all sections of the Bill had been agreed by the Committee and as all amendments had been disposed of, Stage 3 will commence from 8 November 2013.
3 Papers to note
3.1 The papers were noted.
3.1 National Health Service Finance (Wales) Bill: Letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services (29 October 2013)
3.2 Education (Wales) Bill: Letter from the Minister for Education and Skills (22 October 2013)
4 Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:
4.1 The motion was agreed.
5 Finance Wales Inquiry: Consideration of Draft Terms of Reference
5.1 Committee considered and agreed the paper. They also suggested the possibility of having an expert advisor to assist with this inquiry.
6 Consideration of draft report on the Welsh Government draft budget proposals 2014-15
6.1 Committee made some slight amendments and agreed the final draft version and noted it would be published on 12 November 2013.